Display PDF attachments in 'Notes'

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Re: Display PDF attachments in 'Notes'

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Inline like Evernote does, but either way would be the biggest new added feature for EPIM to come along in a long time, and it makes me giddy that your even looking into it. I'll be giving up Evernote the moment I see this feature in EPIM.

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Re: Display PDF attachments in 'Notes'

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For me would be in the attatchments tab. In the left side would be a vertical list of all attachments, small icons with names or just names, and on the right side a big preview, with zoom controls of possible. In list mode, click to open pop up window with the document, like when i double click in the notes where you can maximize the window and zoom if needed.

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Re: Display PDF attachments in 'Notes'

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Frizzell, thanks for your input! Although, as you know there could be a number of leafs in a note. Which of the leafs we should show a preview on? The one that was active when a user added the PDF file? If so, how would a user remember which of the leafs he would need to switch to see a preview?

Argenthos, in this case we likely need to show previews not only for PDFs but for other types of files, as well. And this will complicate the feature a bit (thus longer development). Also, for some users attachments are shown as a list, therefore your suggested method wouldn't be universal. We have to come up with something else. Close to inline method, although it has its own drawbacks as mentioned above..
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Re: Display PDF attachments in 'Notes'

Post by Keldi »

If I go around fantasizing how could it be, I see it as an addition to the current attachments feature.

Let's say, we have a note with different files attached to it.
epim-pdf-preview1.png
 
When the attachment are shown as a list, they are shown below the note's content, no matter what note's leaf we are at.
We can drag the border up to see all the file names.
epim-pdf-preview2.png
 
So my suggestion is to add the preview below that list.
epim-pdf-preview3.png
It can show the preview of all attached PDFs, one after another as you scroll down (and if you click on 2.pdf in the list, it'll just scroll down to that file's preview)
{list of files here}
___1.pdf_____________

(preview)

___2.pdf_____________

(preview)
___3.pdf_____________

(preview)
or just the one which name you click on in the list of attachments
{list of files here, 2.pdf is selected}
(preview of 2.pdf)
You can drag the attachment area by the upper border down to hide the previews when you don't need them, or drag it up to give it more space (the same as it's with the list of attachments now to hide/show files names).

When the attachments are shown as a separate tab, there could be another radio button for the previews view.
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And when you select this view of attachments, it'll be something like this
epim-pdf-preview5.png
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When clicking on document.rtf or image.jpeg, it can just show 'Preview isn't available' at the right.
I was too lazy to paint it in, but I'd like the zoom somewhere for previews too. :D

As the attachment feature is the same throughout all modules, not only the notes would have the previews of attached files this way but the appointments/tasks/so on.

It can start with PDFs and then later over the time add previews of some other popular formats (jpeg, png...), or not. :mrgreen:
And as an option somewhere in the settings, it might even have "Show the previews of attached as links files when possible" (when the file isn't added into the database, but attached as a link to a file on the local drive).

That was my suggestion, but any way you add the preview of PDFs would be great.

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Re: Display PDF attachments in 'Notes'

Post by admin »

Keldi, thanks, these are actually very good ideas! They seem to be the best option for implementation at the moment. There's only one drawback that I see. Say, there's just a single line for attachments like on your very first screenshot. What happens if a user clicks on the attachment - should the line be expanded by couple of lines up in order to at least partially accommodate a preview? What if a user didn't want it to move up, should the preview still be there below, although hidden at the moment?

Maybe there should be another section introduced for when the attachments are shown as list, that will only show previews above the files when clicked on them..
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Re: Display PDF attachments in 'Notes'

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Yes, previews in a section above the list are probably better. And this way the information from the PDF will be closer to the what in the note itself.
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The list's height can be adjusted by dragging its the upper border, so it doesn't take too much space (or back up to show more of file names)
epim-pdf-preview7.png
 
And the height of the preview section could be adjusted by dragging its upper border, up to give it more space, down to show less. And if it dragged down to hide the area altogether, there can be some button to show the preview area again.
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Or the button can be constantly there to switch between hide/show previews. Or maybe there is no need for a button (I personally like how in the table view of appointments I can drag down the appointment's build-in viewer/editor by the upper border into nothingness, and then get it back by just dragging the border up). Or maybe, just clicking on the PDF's filename should bring the preview area back...

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And another thought: a place, where it'd be nice to have previews too, is the Attachment Manager.
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Re: Display PDF attachments in 'Notes'

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Agree, implementing the feature along these lines should do it. Thanks for your input, Keldi!
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